Meeting Summary – 09/16/24 IBRWG Meeting

September 3, 2025

IBRWG Meeting

1 – Antitrust Admonition

Presenter: Julia Matevosyan

2 – DWG Procedure Manual — S.-W. Kang

  • ERCOT appreciates stakeholder support and addressed all comments on the DWG precision manuals.
  • Draft DWG procedure manual posted on DWG website.
  • PUCT decision on NPRR245 expected in September; effective date likely October 1.
  • ROS approval sought on October 3, previously planned for September.
  • Updated DWG manual available on the website as a draft for familiarization.
  • ERCOT updated PMV and DMV tools for NPRR245 writethrough test.
  • Tools are linked in previous meeting presentations and ERCOT model quality guide.
  • Confirmations received from Jonathan on PMV and DMV tool updates with latest NOGRR245 test proposals.

3 – NERC Standards Update — FERC Order 901 (M. Henry, TRE)

  • Brief update on NERC standards related to FERC order 901
  • FERC directives to NERC in October 2023 to address IBR integration challenges
  • Four focus areas: data sharing, model validation, planning, operational studies, IVR performance requirements
  • Milestone 2 projects to be completed by November 4
  • Three projects involved in Milestone 2
  • Details on the first project: Disturbance monitoring equipment (2021-04) leading to PRC-028-1 standard
  • PRC-024 version 5 IBR-related material moved to PRC-029, consensus issues
  • Technical Conference held by NERC to gather feedback on PRC-029
  • Workshop findings: difficulty meeting requirements with older equipment, technical challenges, and OEM feedback
  • New standard PRC-030 asking entities to evaluate and mitigate issues
  • New standards expected to be issued for final ballot
  • NERC board may step in if consensus is not reached Q&A highlights
  • John Schmall: Who drafts the revised PRC-029?
    Answer: NERC staff, driven with the standards committee.
  • Ken Donohoo: Concerns about exceeding IEEE 2800 and legacy equipment.
    Answer: It’s acceptable if regional needs exceed NERC standards; legacy equipment considerations are being discussed.

Next steps

  • NERC to issue a new standard for ballot with a quick turnaround.
  • More outreach and timeline updates post-FERC approval.

4 – Draft Proposal for Advanced Grid Support Energy Storage Resource (F. Huang, ERCOT)

  • Update on planned revision request; three documents posted: draft NOGRR, draft PGRR, and the pace framework report.
  • Consultant recommended 11 tests for grid-forming technology; narrowed to seven proposed test requirements:
    • Flat start test
    • Small voltage disturbance test
    • Large voltage disturbance test
    • Frequency change & inertia response test
    • System strength test
    • Phase angle jump test
    • Loss of synchronous machine test
  • Expected grid impacts: improved voltage/frequency response and stability, especially where advanced grid support storage is deployed.
  • Applies first to energy storage resources; may extend to wind/solar later.
  • New requirements will apply to storage with SGIS agreements signed on or after April 1, 2025.
  • A work session may occur at the next IBRWG; stakeholders encouraged to comment before formal October submission.

5 – PFR from IBRs under “Deep” Curtailment (M. Cova Acosta – Vestas; Nick Miller – Hickory Ledge; All)

  • Reviewed BAL-TRE frequency response context and defined zones.
  • Main issue: IBRs often fail to provide PFR when heavily curtailed or stopped.
  • Turbines fully stopped can’t meet ERCOT’s 16–60s PFR expectation without restart time.
  • Two suggestions:
    • Add an exemption for this condition.
    • Set realistic expectations and telemetry to reflect actual capability (e.g., NTON/NTOFF).
  • Additional limitation: technical minimum operating points; avoid frequent stop/start from minor frequency deviations (use low sustained limits or filtering).

6 – NOGRR245 Update (S. Solis, ERCOT)

  • Commission review expected this month; internal drafts exist.
  • Regional standards can exceed NERC as needed for ERCOT.
  • New NOGRR will follow soon after approval; discussion in IBRWG for ~1 month, with key debates in ROS/TAC.
  • Monthly updates to IBRWG planned.

7 – RoCoF & Phase Jump Measurement Discussion (M. Cova Acosta – Vestas; S. Solis – ERCOT; All)

  • Measuring RoCoF/phase jumps during transients/faults can be unreliable.
  • IEEE 2800 recommends averaging window ≥ 0.1s; ERCOT considering 0.5s.
  • Phase angle jumps should not trip during faults; needs separate averaging considerations.
  • Need for standardized methods across OEMs; transparency in ERCOT methodology requested.
  • Plan for a working session to refine measurement windows and implementation.

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Related meeting(s): IBRWG
Related controls: NOGRR245
Tags: IBRWG